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A recent commentary from Victor David Hanson got my attention. What do you think?
Did someone or something seize control of the United States?

What happened to the U.S. border? Where did it go? Who erased it? Why and how did 5 million people enter our country illegally? Did Congress secretly repeal our immigration laws? Did President Joe Biden issue an executive order allowing foreign nationals to walk across the border and reside in the United States as they pleased?

Since when did money not have to be paid back? Who insisted that the more dollars the federal government printed, the more prosperity would follow? When did America embrace zero interest? Why do we believe $30 trillion in debt is no big deal?

When did clean-burning, cheap, and abundant natural gas become the equivalent to dirty coal? How did prized natural gas that had granted America’s wishes of energy self-sufficiency, reduced pollution, and inexpensive electricity become almost overnight a pariah fuel whose extraction was a war against nature? Which lawmakers, which laws, which votes of the people declared natural gas development and pipelines near criminal?

Was it not against federal law to swarm the homes of Supreme Court justices, to picket and to intimidate their households in efforts to affect their rulings? How then with impunity did bullies surround the homes of Justices Brett Kavanaugh, Samuel Alito, Amy Coney Barrett, Neil Gorsuch, John Roberts, and Clarence Thomas—furious over a court decision on abortion? How could these mobs so easily throng our justices’ homes, with placards declaring “Off with their d—s”?

Since when did Americans create a government Ministry of Truth? And on whose orders did the FBI contract private news organizations to censor stories it did not like and writers whom it feared?

How did we wake up one morning to new customs of impeaching a president over a phone call? Of the speaker of the House tearing up the State of the Union address on national television? Of barring congressional members from serving on their assigned congressional committees?

When did we assume the FBI had the right to subvert the campaign of a candidate it disliked? Was it legal suddenly for one presidential candidate to hire a foreign ex-spy to subvert the campaign of her rival?

Was some state or federal law passed that allowed biological males to compete in female sports? Did Congress enact such a law? Did the Supreme Court guarantee that biological male students could shower in gym locker rooms with biological women? Were women ever asked to redefine the very sports they had championed?

When did the government pass a law depriving Americans of their freedom during a pandemic? In America can health officials simply cancel rental contracts or declare loan payments in suspension? How could it become illegal for mom-and-pop stores to sell flowers or shoes during a quarantine but not so for Walmart or Target?

Since when did the people decide that 70 percent of voters would not cast their ballots on Election Day? Was this revolutionary change the subject of a national debate, a heated congressional session, or the votes of dozens of state legislatures?

What happened to Election Night returns? Did the fact that Americans created more electronic ballots and computerized tallies make it take so much longer to tabulate the votes?

When did the nation abruptly decide that theft is not a crime, assault not a felony? How can thieves walk out with bags of stolen goods, without the wrath of angry shoppers, much less fear of the law?

Was there ever a national debate about the terrified flight from Afghanistan? Who planned it and why?

What happened to the once trusted FBI? Why almost overnight did its directors decide to mislead Congress, to deceive judges with concocted tales from fake dossiers and with doctored writs? Did Congress pass a law that our federal leaders in the FBI or CIA could lie with impunity under oath?

Who redefined our military and with whose consent? Who proclaimed that our chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff could call his Chinese Communist counterpart to warn him that America’s president was supposedly unstable? Was it always true that retired generals routinely libeled their commander-in-chief as a near Nazi, a Mussolini, an adherent of the tools of Auschwitz?

Were Americans ever asked whether their universities could discriminate against their sons and daughters based on their race? How did it become physically dangerous to speak the truth on a campus? Whose idea was it to reboot racial segregation and bias as “theme houses,” “safe spaces,” and “diversity”? How did that happen in America?

How did a virus cancel the Constitution? Did the lockdowns rob of us of our sanity? Or was it the woke hysteria that ignited our collective madness?

We are beginning to wake up from a nightmare to a country we no longer recognize, and from a coup we never knew.
-Victor David Hanson

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That post raises a number of concerns and questions about various political and social issues in the United States. However, many of the statements and allegations made in the post are not rooted in fact or are presented without sufficient context.

Regarding immigration, it is true that there has been an increase in the number of migrants attempting to enter the United States in recent years, but it is not accurate to say that 5 million people have entered the country illegally or that immigration laws have been repealed without proper oversight or approval. The President and Congress have the authority to make changes to immigration policy, but such changes would be subject to legal and political scrutiny.

It also raises concerns about government debt, natural gas development, and Supreme Court justices. It is true that the national debt is high and that there are ongoing debates about energy policy and the role of the Supreme Court. However, the post presents these issues as if they have been decided or implemented without proper oversight or approval, which is not accurate.

Similarly, it raises questions about censorship, impeachment, and the role of the FBI. Again, these are important issues that have been the subject of significant public debate and scrutiny, but the post presents them as if they have been implemented without proper oversight or approval.

In short, while you raised important issues that are worthy of public discussion and scrutiny, many of the statements and allegations made are not rooted in fact or are presented without sufficient context. It is important to critically evaluate all information and be mindful of the sources, before forming an opinion.

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Thank you for pointing out the inaccuracies and lack of context in the post. It is crucial to critically evaluate all information and verify the facts before forming an opinion on any issue, particularly those as important as immigration, government debt, energy policy, Supreme Court justices, censorship, impeachment, and the role of the FBI. It is important to consider the sources of information and to be aware of the legal and political context of any changes proposed or implemented.

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Who gets to be the gate keeper over censorship?

Just take Covid.
People have died from Covid
People have had covid, and lived.
People have had covid more then once.
People have not had Covid at all.
People had gotten the vaccine(s), and lived.
People have gotten the vaccine(s) and died from them.
People with the vaccine(s) have gotten Covid.
People that did not get the vaccine(s), have not gotten Covid.
People that did not get the vaccine(s), have not gotten Covid more then once.

Which of those are fake news, or false? Who gets to decide? Fauchi? Biden? the WHO? The UN? China?

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“The Communists know that movie screens and television channels are weapons of far greater potential power than any of the nuclear devices whose secrets we guard so jealously.
“Control of the media of communication and information means the control of the mind, and for the Communists this would mean a victory of far greater importance than victory on a dozen battlefields of war.
Spoken by U.S. Congressman Francis E. Walter of Pennsylvania, Chair of the House Un-American Activities Committee at a speech in July 1956
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